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这个介词的用法ThemoderndetectivestoryisconsideredtohaveoriginatedwithEdgarAllanPoe'sTheMurdersintheRueMorguein1841.这句中为什么用with,不是用from呢?originatefrom?

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The modern detective story is considered to have originated with Edgar Allan Poe's The Murders in the Rue Morgue in 1841.这句中为什么用with,不是用from呢?originate from?

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originate with
来自…; 源于…
This style of music originated with four popular young musicians in the 1950s.
这种风格的音乐是由50年代四个年轻的受人们欢迎的音乐家创始的.